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CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676
  • see minutes.

Agenda

(feel free to add more)

Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

June 10
9h-10h Registration/Coffee
10h - 12noon Introduction Session

- Who is who? (Everyone introduces themselves)

- Virtual Observatory as an Astronomy Infrastructure (EuroVO and IVOA status)

- VO as a tool for Science (Science Examples - simple and advanced)

- Snapshot of European Data Centres (Summary of the census results)

12 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Data Centre Presentations

~6 x15 min presentations from Data Centres

15h30 - 16h Coffee break
16h - 17h30 Information and Publishing tools for Data Centres

(presentations, but enough time for questions)

- Talk on Different approaches to publishing and standards - big/small/archives/projects

- Talk on GAVO publishing?

- Talk on SAADA?

- ???

June 11
9h - 10h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from large organizations

[ ~4 panelists from ESO, LOFAR, ESA, ?]

10h30 - 11h Coffee
11h - 12h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from medium sized organizations and projects

[ ~4 panelists from ???]

12h30 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Concluding discussion

Speakers

- offered contribution from Catherine Boisson (Convener of the Science User Group work package of Cherenkov Telescop Array (CTA)), discussion on standards for high energy data in the VO

- ideas/contributions from the SOC?

Getting the word out

Status

5 registrations (all from within CoSADIE , see http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum)

done
  • First Announcement sent to cosadie-staff (at) g-vo.org (25 members) on feb 28.
  • distributed to the French VO mailing list and to the mailing list of the French astronomical society by Francoise Genova on march 1.
  • distributed to EuroVO Mailing list my Mark Allen
  • distributed to members (at) g-vo.org by Gabriel
  • posted on www.conference-series.com
  • inviting link on Questionnaire website
to do

  • Send announcement to national astronomical societies?

Telecon Minutes:

Present:

Mark Allen

Christophe Arviset

Markus Demleitner

Mark Holliman (for Keith Noddle)

Marco Molinaro

Gabriel Stöckle

(1) Introduction / Action Items (collected by Markus)
We are planning with 40 participants, which would be a success.

Everyone:

  1. Think hard how to best make use of the Tools session on Monday afternoon, possibly writing mock abstracts for talks you think should be given there.
  2. Collect panel discussion questions.
  3. Talk to interested parties and invite them in person.
UHEI:
  1. Send out another round of nice invitations to the DC census participants
  2. Identify candidates for the Small/Medium DC Panel discussion from the DC census data [BUT: if you know someone that's a good speaker and might fit the bill, please do tell us]
TBD:
  1. Actually fix the speakers for the Big DC Panel
(2) Program Outline
We're working on a proposal written by Mark Allen (thanks!)
(a) Monday 9-10 Registration/Coffee
Some discussion to shorten this to end at 9:30 -- the additinal 30
Minutes might allow people to travel on Monday morning, though, so we
keep the hour for now.
(b) Monday 10-12 Introduction Session
A Who's Who could help to set the atmosphere of a discussion meeting depending on the number of participants.
Then, talks on:
* VO Infrastructure (Francoise has signalled she'd do it)
* VO as a tool (Mark Allen is the natural candidate and has agreed to
speak)
* Snapshot of the DC Forum (Either Gabriel or Markus)
(c) Monday 12-13:30 Lunch
Since we'll have lunch in-house, 60-90 minutes should suffice here. If
necessary, we can thus start the DC presentations at 13:30
(d) Monday 13:30-15:30 Data Center Presentations
We should encourage speakers to talk about more about what they (want
to) publish and what's tricky about it and less about their fancy,
shining project/instruments/whatever -- that's happened at previous
community workshops and turned out to be not terribly useful.
(e) Monday 16-17:30 Publishing Tools
Thankfully, there's not much pressure to talk about individual packages
here. We're not quite sure what would be useful to encourage
participants to become more active in the VO.
Markus suggests talks about
  • What does it take to publish to the VO? (explaining concepts like our typed protocols, TAP, the registry, the clients...)
  • What do you get for being in the VO? (explaining how astronomers are supposed to use all the stuff discussed in the previous talk)
Mark Allen suggests at least one talk about the different approaches to
publishing to the VO (PAAS, using packages, using libraries,
roll-your-own).

We agree to write brief mock-abstracts and see how we can join them.

(f) Tuesday morning, Panel discussions
There is some discussion whether we actually want two panels (unless we
really run into time constraints, we do), and whether we should separate
according to some criterion other than "large/small". However, if only
for reasons of acknowledging them, we shouldn't mix the large
establishments with people "justing wanting to publish their data".

Christophe: Good moderation is needed to come to some valuable result. Focus is "What do you want to publish, what are the problems?"

Markus suggests to have 3 panelists from larger projects that we know and one panelist from a small/medium project, which we're going to try and identify

from the DC census.

We should probably identify some "guiding questions" for the panels.

One might be:
What kind of help would you like to get from the VO: VO people visiting
you for a week or two? Should we rather write layers on top of your
proprietary services? Or just fund a person from your project?
[Frankly, I can guess what they'll answer given that choice -- Markus]
Chair of the panels can be Francoise and Andy Lowhan(?)

(g) 14-15:30 Concluding Discussion
Not controversial.
(3) Getting the word out
So far, only four people actually have registred [not even the SOC!
Come on, don't make us look bad and go http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum now
-- Markus].
UHEI so far has sent out an invitation to the participants of the DC
census, alongside with the request to update the data, so it's not been
very conspicuous. We'll send out another mail soon-ish, focused on the
DC forum more explicitely.
The invitation has also been circulated on the EuroVO mailing list.
In the end, we'll have to ask folks individually. So, if you know
people who might be interested to come (and, equally important, talk),
please talk to them.
(4) Next Telecon
There's going to be another availability survey when we next need one,
probably some time in April.
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Meeting Minutes

These are the minutes of an SOC meeting during the Heidelberg Interop.

Program Updates

So, we have 10 Contributions (possibly minus Catherine Boisson, to whom Marco will try to re-establish contact).

This works out 12 Minutes/Contribution, which we consider is not enough. Markus suggests to strike Panel Discussion II and have two DC Input sessions.

Inputs I would stay where they are, Inputs II would be the first session on Tuesday, with the Panel Discussion the last core program point.

Target Group Mismatches

Most (all but 1 or 2) people currently registred for the DC Forum are at the Interop. That would indicate that we so far failed to attract the non-VO clientele. Mark will write a draft mail for Francoise to send around to the CoSADIE board ("please invite people").

UHEI will look into the DC Census again looking for potentially interested parties again and send personalized mails again.

Some further names were in the air, and whoever aired them will try to establish contact.

Panelists

Who's going to be on the Panel? One of the ESO persons would be good (Mark will ask), Jerome Berthier if we can get him (Gabriel will ask), Laurent Michel (Mark)? Pierre LeSidaner? Mark and Markus would stand in if there's a vacant seat.

Questions for Panelists

Think about them, collect them via mail (Gabriel will remind us as necessary).

 
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  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676
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Agenda

(feel free to add more)

Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

June 10
9h-10h Registration/Coffee
10h - 12noon Introduction Session

- Who is who? (Everyone introduces themselves)

- Virtual Observatory as an Astronomy Infrastructure (EuroVO and IVOA status)

- VO as a tool for Science (Science Examples - simple and advanced)

- Snapshot of European Data Centres (Summary of the census results)

12 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Data Centre Presentations

~6 x15 min presentations from Data Centres

15h30 - 16h Coffee break
16h - 17h30 Information and Publishing tools for Data Centres

(presentations, but enough time for questions)

- Talk on Different approaches to publishing and standards - big/small/archives/projects

- Talk on GAVO publishing?

- Talk on SAADA?

- ???

June 11
9h - 10h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from large organizations

[ ~4 panelists from ESO, LOFAR, ESA, ?]

10h30 - 11h Coffee
11h - 12h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from medium sized organizations and projects

[ ~4 panelists from ???]

12h30 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Concluding discussion

Speakers

- offered contribution from Catherine Boisson (Convener of the Science User Group work package of Cherenkov Telescop Array (CTA)), discussion on standards for high energy data in the VO

- ideas/contributions from the SOC?

Getting the word out

Status

5 registrations (all from within CoSADIE , see http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum)

done
  • First Announcement sent to cosadie-staff (at) g-vo.org (25 members) on feb 28.
  • distributed to the French VO mailing list and to the mailing list of the French astronomical society by Francoise Genova on march 1.
  • distributed to EuroVO Mailing list my Mark Allen
  • distributed to members (at) g-vo.org by Gabriel
  • posted on www.conference-series.com
  • inviting link on Questionnaire website
to do

  • Send announcement to national astronomical societies?
Changed:
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Telecon Protocol:

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Telecon Minutes:

 
Present:

Mark Allen

Christophe Arviset

Markus Demleitner

Mark Holliman (for Keith Noddle)

Marco Molinaro

Gabriel Stöckle

(1) Introduction / Action Items (collected by Markus)
We are planning with 40 participants, which would be a success.

Everyone:

Added:
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  1. Think hard how to best make use of the Tools session on Monday afternoon, possibly writing mock abstracts for talks you think should be given there.
  2. Collect panel discussion questions.
  3. Talk to interested parties and invite them in person.
UHEI:
  1. Send out another round of nice invitations to the DC census participants
  2. Identify candidates for the Small/Medium DC Panel discussion from the DC census data [BUT: if you know someone that's a good speaker and might fit the bill, please do tell us]
TBD:
  1. Actually fix the speakers for the Big DC Panel
(2) Program Outline
We're working on a proposal written by Mark Allen (thanks!)
(a) Monday 9-10 Registration/Coffee
Some discussion to shorten this to end at 9:30 -- the additinal 30
Minutes might allow people to travel on Monday morning, though, so we
keep the hour for now.
(b) Monday 10-12 Introduction Session
A Who's Who could help to set the atmosphere of a discussion meeting depending on the number of participants.
Then, talks on:
* VO Infrastructure (Francoise has signalled she'd do it)
* VO as a tool (Mark Allen is the natural candidate and has agreed to
speak)
* Snapshot of the DC Forum (Either Gabriel or Markus)
(c) Monday 12-13:30 Lunch
Since we'll have lunch in-house, 60-90 minutes should suffice here. If
necessary, we can thus start the DC presentations at 13:30
(d) Monday 13:30-15:30 Data Center Presentations
We should encourage speakers to talk about more about what they (want
to) publish and what's tricky about it and less about their fancy,
shining project/instruments/whatever -- that's happened at previous
community workshops and turned out to be not terribly useful.
(e) Monday 16-17:30 Publishing Tools
Thankfully, there's not much pressure to talk about individual packages
here. We're not quite sure what would be useful to encourage
participants to become more active in the VO.
Markus suggests talks about
  • What does it take to publish to the VO? (explaining concepts like our typed protocols, TAP, the registry, the clients...)
  • What do you get for being in the VO? (explaining how astronomers are supposed to use all the stuff discussed in the previous talk)
Mark Allen suggests at least one talk about the different approaches to
publishing to the VO (PAAS, using packages, using libraries,
roll-your-own).

We agree to write brief mock-abstracts and see how we can join them.

(f) Tuesday morning, Panel discussions
There is some discussion whether we actually want two panels (unless we
really run into time constraints, we do), and whether we should separate
according to some criterion other than "large/small". However, if only
for reasons of acknowledging them, we shouldn't mix the large
establishments with people "justing wanting to publish their data".

Christophe: Good moderation is needed to come to some valuable result. Focus is "What do you want to publish, what are the problems?"

Markus suggests to have 3 panelists from larger projects that we know and one panelist from a small/medium project, which we're going to try and identify

from the DC census.

We should probably identify some "guiding questions" for the panels.

One might be:
What kind of help would you like to get from the VO: VO people visiting
you for a week or two? Should we rather write layers on top of your
proprietary services? Or just fund a person from your project?
[Frankly, I can guess what they'll answer given that choice -- Markus]
Chair of the panels can be Francoise and Andy Lowhan(?)

(g) 14-15:30 Concluding Discussion
Not controversial.
(3) Getting the word out
So far, only four people actually have registred [not even the SOC!
Come on, don't make us look bad and go http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum now
-- Markus].
UHEI so far has sent out an invitation to the participants of the DC
census, alongside with the request to update the data, so it's not been
very conspicuous. We'll send out another mail soon-ish, focused on the
DC forum more explicitely.
The invitation has also been circulated on the EuroVO mailing list.
In the end, we'll have to ask folks individually. So, if you know
people who might be interested to come (and, equally important, talk),
please talk to them.
(4) Next Telecon
There's going to be another availability survey when we next need one,
probably some time in April.

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Revision 92013-03-20 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676
  • see protocol here

Agenda

(feel free to add more)

Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

June 10
9h-10h Registration/Coffee
10h - 12noon Introduction Session

- Who is who? (Everyone introduces themselves)

- Virtual Observatory as an Astronomy Infrastructure (EuroVO and IVOA status)

- VO as a tool for Science (Science Examples - simple and advanced)

- Snapshot of European Data Centres (Summary of the census results)

12 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Data Centre Presentations

~6 x15 min presentations from Data Centres

15h30 - 16h Coffee break
16h - 17h30 Information and Publishing tools for Data Centres

(presentations, but enough time for questions)

- Talk on Different approaches to publishing and standards - big/small/archives/projects

- Talk on GAVO publishing?

- Talk on SAADA?

- ???

June 11
9h - 10h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from large organizations

[ ~4 panelists from ESO, LOFAR, ESA, ?]

10h30 - 11h Coffee
11h - 12h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from medium sized organizations and projects

[ ~4 panelists from ???]

12h30 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Concluding discussion

Speakers

- offered contribution from Catherine Boisson (Convener of the Science User Group work package of Cherenkov Telescop Array (CTA)), discussion on standards for high energy data in the VO

- ideas/contributions from the SOC?

Getting the word out

Status

5 registrations (all from within CoSADIE , see http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum)

done
  • First Announcement sent to cosadie-staff (at) g-vo.org (25 members) on feb 28.
  • distributed to the French VO mailing list and to the mailing list of the French astronomical society by Francoise Genova on march 1.
  • distributed to EuroVO Mailing list my Mark Allen
  • distributed to members (at) g-vo.org by Gabriel
  • posted on www.conference-series.com
  • inviting link on Questionnaire website
to do

  • Send announcement to national astronomical societies?

Telecon Protocol:

Present:

Mark Allen

Christophe Arviset

Markus Demleitner

Mark Holliman (for Keith Noddle)

Marco Molinaro

Gabriel Stöckle

Changed:
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(0) Introduction:
We are planning with 40 participants, which would be a success.
Everybody shall make comments, not just listen
(1) Program Outline
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(1) Introduction / Action Items (collected by Markus)
We are planning with 40 participants, which would be a success.
Added:
>
>
Everyone:
  1. Think hard how to best make use of the Tools session on Monday afternoon, possibly writing mock abstracts for talks you think should be given there.
  2. Collect panel discussion questions.
  3. Talk to interested parties and invite them in person.
UHEI:
  1. Send out another round of nice invitations to the DC census participants
  2. Identify candidates for the Small/Medium DC Panel discussion from the DC census data [BUT: if you know someone that's a good speaker and might fit the bill, please do tell us]
TBD:
  1. Actually fix the speakers for the Big DC Panel
(2) Program Outline
 
We're working on a proposal written by Mark Allen (thanks!)
(a) Monday 9-10 Registration/Coffee
Some discussion to shorten this to end at 9:30 -- the additinal 30
Minutes might allow people to travel on Monday morning, though, so we
keep the hour for now.
(b) Monday 10-12 Introduction Session
A Who's Who could help to set the atmosphere of a discussion meeting depending on the number of participants.
Then, talks on:
* VO Infrastructure (Francoise has signalled she'd do it)
* VO as a tool (Mark Allen is the natural candidate and has agreed to
speak)
* Snapshot of the DC Forum (Either Gabriel or Markus)
(c) Monday 12-13:30 Lunch
Since we'll have lunch in-house, 60-90 minutes should suffice here. If
necessary, we can thus start the DC presentations at 13:30
(d) Monday 13:30-15:30 Data Center Presentations
We should encourage speakers to talk about more about what they (want
to) publish and what's tricky about it and less about their fancy,
shining project/instruments/whatever -- that's happened at previous
community workshops and turned out to be not terribly useful.
(e) Monday 16-17:30 Publishing Tools
Thankfully, there's not much pressure to talk about individual packages
here. We're not quite sure what would be useful to encourage
participants to become more active in the VO.
Markus suggests talks about
  • What does it take to publish to the VO? (explaining concepts like our typed protocols, TAP, the registry, the clients...)
  • What do you get for being in the VO? (explaining how astronomers are supposed to use all the stuff discussed in the previous talk)
Mark Allen suggests at least one talk about the different approaches to
publishing to the VO (PAAS, using packages, using libraries,
roll-your-own).

We agree to write brief mock-abstracts and see how we can join them.

(f) Tuesday morning, Panel discussions
There is some discussion whether we actually want two panels (unless we
really run into time constraints, we do), and whether we should separate
according to some criterion other than "large/small". However, if only
for reasons of acknowledging them, we shouldn't mix the large
establishments with people "justing wanting to publish their data".

Christophe: Good moderation is needed to come to some valuable result. Focus is "What do you want to publish, what are the problems?"

Markus suggests to have 3 panelists from larger projects that we know and one panelist from a small/medium project, which we're going to try and identify

from the DC census.

We should probably identify some "guiding questions" for the panels.

One might be:
What kind of help would you like to get from the VO: VO people visiting
you for a week or two? Should we rather write layers on top of your
proprietary services? Or just fund a person from your project?
[Frankly, I can guess what they'll answer given that choice -- Markus]
Chair of the panels can be Francoise and Andy Lowhan(?)

(g) 14-15:30 Concluding Discussion
Not controversial.
Changed:
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(2) Getting the word out
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(3) Getting the word out
 
So far, only four people actually have registred [not even the SOC!
Come on, don't make us look bad and go http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum now
-- Markus].
UHEI so far has sent out an invitation to the participants of the DC
census, alongside with the request to update the data, so it's not been
very conspicuous. We'll send out another mail soon-ish, focused on the
DC forum more explicitely.
The invitation has also been circulated on the EuroVO mailing list.
In the end, we'll have to ask folks individually. So, if you know
people who might be interested to come (and, equally important, talk),
please talk to them.
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(3) Action items (collected by Markus)
Everyone:
* Think hard how to best make use of the Tools session on Monday
afternoon, possibly writing mock abstracts for talks you think should
be given there
* Talk to interested parties and invite them in person
UHEI:
* Send out another round of nice invitations to the DC census
participants
* Identify candidates for the Small/Medium DC Panel discussion from the DC
census data [BUT: if you know someone that's a good speaker and might
fit the bill, please do tell us]
TBD:
* Actually fix the speakers for the Big DC Panel
 
(4) Next Telecon
There's going to be another availability survey when we next need one,
probably some time in April.

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Revision 82013-03-20 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676
Added:
>
>
 

Agenda

(feel free to add more)

Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

June 10
9h-10h Registration/Coffee
10h - 12noon Introduction Session

- Who is who? (Everyone introduces themselves)

- Virtual Observatory as an Astronomy Infrastructure (EuroVO and IVOA status)

- VO as a tool for Science (Science Examples - simple and advanced)

- Snapshot of European Data Centres (Summary of the census results)

12 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Data Centre Presentations

~6 x15 min presentations from Data Centres

15h30 - 16h Coffee break
16h - 17h30 Information and Publishing tools for Data Centres

(presentations, but enough time for questions)

- Talk on Different approaches to publishing and standards - big/small/archives/projects

- Talk on GAVO publishing?

- Talk on SAADA?

- ???

June 11
9h - 10h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from large organizations

[ ~4 panelists from ESO, LOFAR, ESA, ?]

10h30 - 11h Coffee
11h - 12h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from medium sized organizations and projects

[ ~4 panelists from ???]

12h30 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Concluding discussion

Speakers

- offered contribution from Catherine Boisson (Convener of the Science User Group work package of Cherenkov Telescop Array (CTA)), discussion on standards for high energy data in the VO

- ideas/contributions from the SOC?

Getting the word out

Status

5 registrations (all from within CoSADIE , see http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum)

done
  • First Announcement sent to cosadie-staff (at) g-vo.org (25 members) on feb 28.
  • distributed to the French VO mailing list and to the mailing list of the French astronomical society by Francoise Genova on march 1.
  • distributed to EuroVO Mailing list my Mark Allen
  • distributed to members (at) g-vo.org by Gabriel
  • posted on www.conference-series.com
  • inviting link on Questionnaire website
to do

  • Send announcement to national astronomical societies?
Added:
>
>

Telecon Protocol:

Present:

Mark Allen

Christophe Arviset

Markus Demleitner

Mark Holliman (for Keith Noddle)

Marco Molinaro

Gabriel Stöckle

(0) Introduction:
We are planning with 40 participants, which would be a success.
Everybody shall make comments, not just listen
(1) Program Outline
We're working on a proposal written by Mark Allen (thanks!)
(a) Monday 9-10 Registration/Coffee
Some discussion to shorten this to end at 9:30 -- the additinal 30
Minutes might allow people to travel on Monday morning, though, so we
keep the hour for now.
(b) Monday 10-12 Introduction Session
A Who's Who could help to set the atmosphere of a discussion meeting depending on the number of participants.
Then, talks on:
* VO Infrastructure (Francoise has signalled she'd do it)
* VO as a tool (Mark Allen is the natural candidate and has agreed to
speak)
* Snapshot of the DC Forum (Either Gabriel or Markus)
(c) Monday 12-13:30 Lunch
Since we'll have lunch in-house, 60-90 minutes should suffice here. If
necessary, we can thus start the DC presentations at 13:30
(d) Monday 13:30-15:30 Data Center Presentations
We should encourage speakers to talk about more about what they (want
to) publish and what's tricky about it and less about their fancy,
shining project/instruments/whatever -- that's happened at previous
community workshops and turned out to be not terribly useful.
(e) Monday 16-17:30 Publishing Tools
Thankfully, there's not much pressure to talk about individual packages
here. We're not quite sure what would be useful to encourage
participants to become more active in the VO.
Markus suggests talks about
  • What does it take to publish to the VO? (explaining concepts like our typed protocols, TAP, the registry, the clients...)
  • What do you get for being in the VO? (explaining how astronomers are supposed to use all the stuff discussed in the previous talk)
Mark Allen suggests at least one talk about the different approaches to
publishing to the VO (PAAS, using packages, using libraries,
roll-your-own).

We agree to write brief mock-abstracts and see how we can join them.

(f) Tuesday morning, Panel discussions
There is some discussion whether we actually want two panels (unless we
really run into time constraints, we do), and whether we should separate
according to some criterion other than "large/small". However, if only
for reasons of acknowledging them, we shouldn't mix the large
establishments with people "justing wanting to publish their data".

Christophe: Good moderation is needed to come to some valuable result. Focus is "What do you want to publish, what are the problems?"

Markus suggests to have 3 panelists from larger projects that we know and one panelist from a small/medium project, which we're going to try and identify

from the DC census.

We should probably identify some "guiding questions" for the panels.

One might be:
What kind of help would you like to get from the VO: VO people visiting
you for a week or two? Should we rather write layers on top of your
proprietary services? Or just fund a person from your project?
[Frankly, I can guess what they'll answer given that choice -- Markus]
Chair of the panels can be Francoise and Andy Lowhan(?)

(g) 14-15:30 Concluding Discussion
Not controversial.
(2) Getting the word out
So far, only four people actually have registred [not even the SOC!
Come on, don't make us look bad and go http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum now
-- Markus].
UHEI so far has sent out an invitation to the participants of the DC
census, alongside with the request to update the data, so it's not been
very conspicuous. We'll send out another mail soon-ish, focused on the
DC forum more explicitely.
The invitation has also been circulated on the EuroVO mailing list.
In the end, we'll have to ask folks individually. So, if you know
people who might be interested to come (and, equally important, talk),
please talk to them.
(3) Action items (collected by Markus)
Everyone:
* Think hard how to best make use of the Tools session on Monday
afternoon, possibly writing mock abstracts for talks you think should
be given there
* Talk to interested parties and invite them in person
UHEI:
* Send out another round of nice invitations to the DC census
participants
* Identify candidates for the Small/Medium DC Panel discussion from the DC
census data [BUT: if you know someone that's a good speaker and might
fit the bill, please do tell us]
TBD:
* Actually fix the speakers for the Big DC Panel
(4) Next Telecon
There's going to be another availability survey when we next need one,
probably some time in April.
 
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Revision 72013-03-18 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676

Agenda

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  • Program Outline
  • Speakers
  • Getting the Word Out
  • AOB
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 (feel free to add more)
Changed:
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Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

>
>

Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

 
June 10
9h-10h Registration/Coffee
10h - 12noon Introduction Session

- Who is who? (Everyone introduces themselves)

- Virtual Observatory as an Astronomy Infrastructure (EuroVO and IVOA status)

- VO as a tool for Science (Science Examples - simple and advanced)

- Snapshot of European Data Centres (Summary of the census results)

12 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Data Centre Presentations

~6 x15 min presentations from Data Centres

15h30 - 16h Coffee break
16h - 17h30 Information and Publishing tools for Data Centres

(presentations, but enough time for questions)

- Talk on Different approaches to publishing and standards - big/small/archives/projects

- Talk on GAVO publishing?

- Talk on SAADA?

- ???

June 11
9h - 10h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from large organizations

[ ~4 panelists from ESO, LOFAR, ESA, ?]

10h30 - 11h Coffee
11h - 12h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from medium sized organizations and projects

[ ~4 panelists from ???]

12h30 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Concluding discussion
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Speakers

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Speakers

  - offered contribution from Catherine Boisson (Convener of the Science User Group work package of Cherenkov Telescop Array (CTA)), discussion on standards for high energy data in the VO

- ideas/contributions from the SOC?

Changed:
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<

Getting the word out

>
>

Getting the word out

 
Status

5 registrations (all from within CoSADIE , see http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum)

done
  • First Announcement sent to cosadie-staff (at) g-vo.org (25 members) on feb 28.
  • distributed to the French VO mailing list and to the mailing list of the French astronomical society by Francoise Genova on march 1.
  • distributed to EuroVO Mailing list my Mark Allen
  • distributed to members (at) g-vo.org by Gabriel
  • posted on www.conference-series.com
  • inviting link on Questionnaire website
to do

  • Send announcement to national astronomical societies?
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Revision 62013-03-18 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676

Agenda

  • Program Outline
  • Speakers
  • Getting the Word Out
  • AOB
(feel free to add more)

Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

June 10
9h-10h Registration/Coffee
10h - 12noon Introduction Session

- Who is who? (Everyone introduces themselves)

- Virtual Observatory as an Astronomy Infrastructure (EuroVO and IVOA status)

- VO as a tool for Science (Science Examples - simple and advanced)

- Snapshot of European Data Centres (Summary of the census results)

12 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Data Centre Presentations

~6 x15 min presentations from Data Centres

15h30 - 16h Coffee break
16h - 17h30 Information and Publishing tools for Data Centres

(presentations, but enough time for questions)

- Talk on Different approaches to publishing and standards - big/small/archives/projects

- Talk on GAVO publishing?

- Talk on SAADA?

- ???

June 11
9h - 10h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from large organizations

[ ~4 panelists from ESO, LOFAR, ESA, ?]

10h30 - 11h Coffee
11h - 12h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from medium sized organizations and projects

[ ~4 panelists from ???]

12h30 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Concluding discussion

Speakers

- offered contribution from Catherine Boisson (Convener of the Science User Group work package of Cherenkov Telescop Array (CTA)), discussion on standards for high energy data in the VO

- ideas/contributions from the SOC?

Getting the word out

Status

5 registrations (all from within CoSADIE , see http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum)

done
Changed:
<
<
>
>
  • First Announcement sent to cosadie-staff (at) g-vo.org (25 members) on feb 28.
 
  • distributed to the French VO mailing list and to the mailing list of the French astronomical society by Francoise Genova on march 1.
  • distributed to EuroVO Mailing list my Mark Allen
Changed:
<
<
>
>
  • distributed to members (at) g-vo.org by Gabriel
 
  • posted on www.conference-series.com
  • inviting link on Questionnaire website
to do

  • Send announcement to national astronomical societies?
<-- Set ALLOWTOPICCHANGE = CoSADIEMembersGroup -->

Revision 52013-03-18 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676

Agenda

  • Program Outline
  • Speakers
  • Getting the Word Out
  • AOB
(feel free to add more)
Changed:
<
<
<--
Set ALLOWTOPICCHANGE = CoSADIEMembersGroup
-->
>
>

Program Outline (thanks to Mark Allen)

June 10
9h-10h Registration/Coffee
Added:
>
>
10h - 12noon Introduction Session

- Who is who? (Everyone introduces themselves)

- Virtual Observatory as an Astronomy Infrastructure (EuroVO and IVOA status)

- VO as a tool for Science (Science Examples - simple and advanced)

- Snapshot of European Data Centres (Summary of the census results)

12 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Data Centre Presentations

~6 x15 min presentations from Data Centres

15h30 - 16h Coffee break
16h - 17h30 Information and Publishing tools for Data Centres

(presentations, but enough time for questions)

- Talk on Different approaches to publishing and standards - big/small/archives/projects

- Talk on GAVO publishing?

- Talk on SAADA?

- ???

June 11
9h - 10h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from large organizations

[ ~4 panelists from ESO, LOFAR, ESA, ?]

10h30 - 11h Coffee
11h - 12h30 Panel discussion

- requirements/feedback from medium sized organizations and projects

[ ~4 panelists from ???]

12h30 - 14h Lunch
14h - 15h30 Concluding discussion

Speakers

- offered contribution from Catherine Boisson (Convener of the Science User Group work package of Cherenkov Telescop Array (CTA)), discussion on standards for high energy data in the VO

- ideas/contributions from the SOC?

Getting the word out

Status

5 registrations (all from within CoSADIE , see http://g-vo.org/reg_dcforum)

done
  • First Announcement sent to cosadie-staff@g-vo.org (25 members) on feb 28.
  • distributed to the French VO mailing list and to the mailing list of the French astronomical society by Francoise Genova on march 1.
  • distributed to EuroVO Mailing list my Mark Allen
  • distributed to member@g-vo.org by Gabriel
  • posted on www.conference-series.com
  • inviting link on Questionnaire website
to do

  • Send announcement to national astronomical societies?
<-- Set ALLOWTOPICCHANGE = CoSADIEMembersGroup -->
 

Revision 42013-03-15 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

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  • Date and time: Monday, March 18 at 2 pm (Mo, 18.3.2013, 14:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676
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  • Date and time: Tuesday, March 19 at 3 (!) pm (Tue, 19.3.2013, 15:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676
 

Agenda

  • Program Outline
  • Speakers
  • Getting the Word Out
  • AOB
(feel free to add more)

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Revision 32013-03-14 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

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  • Date and time: Monday, March 18 at 2 pm (Mo, 18.3.2013, 14:00)
  • Telephone: +49 331 7499 676
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Agenda

  • Program Outline
  • Speakers
  • Getting the Word Out
  • AOB
(feel free to add more)

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Revision 22013-03-05 - GabrielStockle

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

Changed:
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  • Date and time: TBD, see our [[][Terminplaner]]
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  • Telephone: TBD

Agenda

  • Program Outline
  • Speakers
  • Getting the Word Out
  • AOB
(feel free to add more)

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Revision 12013-03-05 - MarkusDemleitner

 

CoSADIE DC Form SOC Telecon 1

  • Date and time: TBD, see our [[][Terminplaner]]
  • Telephone: TBD

Agenda

  • Program Outline
  • Speakers
  • Getting the Word Out
  • AOB
(feel free to add more)

<--
Set ALLOWTOPICCHANGE = CoSADIEMembersGroup
-->
 
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